New Thinking • May 1, 2025 Tom Campbell, a physicst, is author of the three volume set, My Big TOE, describing a meta-theory that offers an account of the paranormal, as well as other scientific mysteries. He is also the founder of the Center for Unification of Science and Consciousness. His website is https://www.my-big-toe.com/ Here he describes a six-year period in his life as a young scientist when he worked intensely with Robert Monroe, author of Journeys Out of the Body. During his period, Tom helped to develop Monroe’s trademarked Hemi-Sync process. Additionally, his own psychic abilities were greatly accelerated. This period initiated Tom Campbell’s work on his “Big TOE” theory of everything. In addition to a serious reflection on the work of Monroe, this interview is an introduction to Tom Campbell’s theory. 00:00:00 Introduction 00:14:43 Out-of-body experiences 00:30:48 Researching consciousness 00:43:22 Out-of-body schooling and tests 00:59:04 Psychic acceleration 01:18:13 The goal of lowering entropy 01:31:42 The limitations of Monroe’s approach 01:44:17 Tom Campbell’s theory 02:04:51 The impact of Bob Monroe 02:07:32 Conclusion New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death. He is Co-Director of Parapsychology Education at the California Institute for Human Science. (Recorded on April 7, 2025)